http://thirdchapter.org/ Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:22:01 +0000 MyBB http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2647 Tue, 09 Mar 2010 11:49:17 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2647
BE HONEST. Nothing is going to be held against you with the survey. It wouldn't be a good survey if we did that.

How to submit the survey:
email: 3sjmproductions@gmail.com
OR
PM thegraceful` from the GUEST account.

guest account login details:
username: guest
password: guest1

DO NOT POST SURVEY ANSWERS HERE.
It's meant to be as anonymous as possible.

You are by no means required to do the survey or to complete all the questions. Fill out whatever you want, because a couple of answers are really better than none so I am happy with any effort made on the survey.

The survey is open to mods, members, guests anyone that wants to provide feedback.

Please title your message as "Member Survey".

Last note: please don't write "more projects" all over the survey. Yes I know, we want more but we still don't have means of delivery and that hinders a lot of things.

The Survey:
Age:
Gender:
Favorite forum section/feature:
Why is it your favorite:
Overall forum happiness:
Overall Mod/Admin happiness: (are you pleased with the mods and admins? Are we too pushy, too lax, too clique-like, whatever let us know!)
Are we your preferred source on SJM stuff, if not, why:
Are you a guest or lurker:
If you are a guest or lurker what can we do to make you want to join or feel more comfortable with posting here:
Are you pleased with the forum set up or is it confusing: (the layout is confusing, the set up of the sections are confusing, the labeling is confusing, etc is what is meant by this question.)
Anything else you want to share: (good, bad, something you want to see, ideas you have to help us, etc again honesty is good.)]]>
BE HONEST. Nothing is going to be held against you with the survey. It wouldn't be a good survey if we did that.

How to submit the survey:
email: 3sjmproductions@gmail.com
OR
PM thegraceful` from the GUEST account.

guest account login details:
username: guest
password: guest1

DO NOT POST SURVEY ANSWERS HERE.
It's meant to be as anonymous as possible.

You are by no means required to do the survey or to complete all the questions. Fill out whatever you want, because a couple of answers are really better than none so I am happy with any effort made on the survey.

The survey is open to mods, members, guests anyone that wants to provide feedback.

Please title your message as "Member Survey".

Last note: please don't write "more projects" all over the survey. Yes I know, we want more but we still don't have means of delivery and that hinders a lot of things.

The Survey:
Age:
Gender:
Favorite forum section/feature:
Why is it your favorite:
Overall forum happiness:
Overall Mod/Admin happiness: (are you pleased with the mods and admins? Are we too pushy, too lax, too clique-like, whatever let us know!)
Are we your preferred source on SJM stuff, if not, why:
Are you a guest or lurker:
If you are a guest or lurker what can we do to make you want to join or feel more comfortable with posting here:
Are you pleased with the forum set up or is it confusing: (the layout is confusing, the set up of the sections are confusing, the labeling is confusing, etc is what is meant by this question.)
Anything else you want to share: (good, bad, something you want to see, ideas you have to help us, etc again honesty is good.)]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2643 Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:51:15 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2643
Rules:
- no ELF didn't mean it, obviously they did.
- no swearing.
- sorry, but we still can't bash ONLY13 and definitely not ELF.

Please cheer up Henry/Mi or better yet all of SJM!]]>
Rules:
- no ELF didn't mean it, obviously they did.
- no swearing.
- sorry, but we still can't bash ONLY13 and definitely not ELF.

Please cheer up Henry/Mi or better yet all of SJM!]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2586 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 01:09:20 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2586
This is for, of course, translating at Third Chapter FOR Third Chapter.

What does at TC for TC mean?
- It means you aren't collecting the already translated news from another site and posting it here.
- It means you translate something and the credit is yourname@thirdchapter.org not yourname@someothersite.com

Why are we doing this?
To get the word out about us and Super Junior M. One of our 2010 resolutions is to be more bold. Also, we are the only Super Junior M international forum I know of, we need to provide the best as quickly as we can. Let's make M and Third Chapter shine?

Interested? Here's what's in it for you!
- User group, yes it will have it's own color and you will be spiffy.
- Access to English subtitled videos without the post requirement.
- After four well translated articles you will be open to requesting a thirdchapter email
(limit to 25 unless something drastic happens, I'm not expecting anywhere near 25 translators.) It will literally be yourname@thirdchapter.org if you desire it, accounts will be taken away if I get in trouble with my provider so NO SPAM.
- Access to the donor box, which includes alternate download links to English subtitled goodies and other things as well. (or it will, I'm working on it.)
- an increased PM limit. You will be able to keep up to 250 PMs. Members are currently only able to receive 50.

What falls under being called a "translation"? What are the rules?
1. YOU MAY NOT USE AN ONLINE TRANSLATOR.
2. STEALING WON'T BE TOLERATED, to the extent it is a week long ban instantly.
3. If your article is of poor quality it will be deleted and you will not be kept in the translator group.
4. You may not take an article that was translated into English, then translated into another language, and translate it back to English for this forum. (example a Chinese article was translated to English, a spanish SJM site took the English and translated it into Spanish and then you found the Spanish and translated it into English. This is a no-no.)
5. To be put into the translator group more quickly you will need to apply, if you just translate something and post it you will be PMed.
6. NEWBIE CHINESE SPEAKERS NEED NOT APPLY.

Because of this we are also seeking out spot translators! Please if you translate Chinese please look over submitted articles, I don't understand enough Chinese to do it myself.

If translating gets out of hand I'll offer rewards to spotters. If you are uncertain of your translation (for example you're a newbie translator) please put it in the news checking section.

How do I apply? UPDATED 2/25
The same way translators apply for Super Junior M productions.
See here: http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=1848

If you are a translator at SJMP or have already translated for us you may apply to join the user group in the USER CP.
Link: http://thirdchapter.org/usercp.php?action=usergroups
In the reason blank please include either that you are SJMP, the name of the video you helped translate OR if you are not SJMP please provide a link to the news article you translated for Third Chapter. After looking in to your translation you will be approved or not depending on the quality or your translation.

LASTLY:
You DO NOT have to be in the translator group to translate!]]>
This is for, of course, translating at Third Chapter FOR Third Chapter.

What does at TC for TC mean?
- It means you aren't collecting the already translated news from another site and posting it here.
- It means you translate something and the credit is yourname@thirdchapter.org not yourname@someothersite.com

Why are we doing this?
To get the word out about us and Super Junior M. One of our 2010 resolutions is to be more bold. Also, we are the only Super Junior M international forum I know of, we need to provide the best as quickly as we can. Let's make M and Third Chapter shine?

Interested? Here's what's in it for you!
- User group, yes it will have it's own color and you will be spiffy.
- Access to English subtitled videos without the post requirement.
- After four well translated articles you will be open to requesting a thirdchapter email
(limit to 25 unless something drastic happens, I'm not expecting anywhere near 25 translators.) It will literally be yourname@thirdchapter.org if you desire it, accounts will be taken away if I get in trouble with my provider so NO SPAM.
- Access to the donor box, which includes alternate download links to English subtitled goodies and other things as well. (or it will, I'm working on it.)
- an increased PM limit. You will be able to keep up to 250 PMs. Members are currently only able to receive 50.

What falls under being called a "translation"? What are the rules?
1. YOU MAY NOT USE AN ONLINE TRANSLATOR.
2. STEALING WON'T BE TOLERATED, to the extent it is a week long ban instantly.
3. If your article is of poor quality it will be deleted and you will not be kept in the translator group.
4. You may not take an article that was translated into English, then translated into another language, and translate it back to English for this forum. (example a Chinese article was translated to English, a spanish SJM site took the English and translated it into Spanish and then you found the Spanish and translated it into English. This is a no-no.)
5. To be put into the translator group more quickly you will need to apply, if you just translate something and post it you will be PMed.
6. NEWBIE CHINESE SPEAKERS NEED NOT APPLY.

Because of this we are also seeking out spot translators! Please if you translate Chinese please look over submitted articles, I don't understand enough Chinese to do it myself.

If translating gets out of hand I'll offer rewards to spotters. If you are uncertain of your translation (for example you're a newbie translator) please put it in the news checking section.

How do I apply? UPDATED 2/25
The same way translators apply for Super Junior M productions.
See here: http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=1848

If you are a translator at SJMP or have already translated for us you may apply to join the user group in the USER CP.
Link: http://thirdchapter.org/usercp.php?action=usergroups
In the reason blank please include either that you are SJMP, the name of the video you helped translate OR if you are not SJMP please provide a link to the news article you translated for Third Chapter. After looking in to your translation you will be approved or not depending on the quality or your translation.

LASTLY:
You DO NOT have to be in the translator group to translate!]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2564 Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:06:59 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2564 This will be updated!

I may have to switch things around, take out things, add things, etc etc but here's currently what I'm looking at doing.

Suggestions are more than welcome!
These also are NOT in order that I'm doing them besides the whole week thing. For example I may choose to do SJMP stuff before forum signature checks even though forum signature checks are first. They're just in the order things came to mind.

February:
+ Week Three 2/14 - 2/21

• forum signatures check, spam bot check [will need mod assistance]
• picture archive/gallery discussion [will be posted in the mod section first]
• SJMP matters
• Translator apps going
• Begin serious SuShow April discussion and start project
  

+ Week Four 2/22 - 2/28

• Donor Box up and going
• picture archive discussion [member discussion]
• if not already settled and started, settle and start SJMP matters
• Finish Third Chapter cookbook and put it up for sale
• Begin new layout planning
  

March:
+ Week 1 3/1 - 3/7

• finish taking translator apps
• appoint translators
• begin third chapter birthday talks [mod discussion]
• delete ALL unactivated users over a week old.
• Restart Pop Music Chart!
  

+ Week 2 3/8 - 3/14

• complete mbox, SJ-M/Third Chapter archive.
• begin third chapter birthday talks [member discussion]
• put up new layout
• forum signature / spam bot checks [will need mod assistance]
  

]]> This will be updated!

I may have to switch things around, take out things, add things, etc etc but here's currently what I'm looking at doing.

Suggestions are more than welcome!
These also are NOT in order that I'm doing them besides the whole week thing. For example I may choose to do SJMP stuff before forum signature checks even though forum signature checks are first. They're just in the order things came to mind.

February:
+ Week Three 2/14 - 2/21

• forum signatures check, spam bot check [will need mod assistance]
• picture archive/gallery discussion [will be posted in the mod section first]
• SJMP matters
• Translator apps going
• Begin serious SuShow April discussion and start project
  

+ Week Four 2/22 - 2/28

• Donor Box up and going
• picture archive discussion [member discussion]
• if not already settled and started, settle and start SJMP matters
• Finish Third Chapter cookbook and put it up for sale
• Begin new layout planning
  

March:
+ Week 1 3/1 - 3/7

• finish taking translator apps
• appoint translators
• begin third chapter birthday talks [mod discussion]
• delete ALL unactivated users over a week old.
• Restart Pop Music Chart!
  

+ Week 2 3/8 - 3/14

• complete mbox, SJ-M/Third Chapter archive.
• begin third chapter birthday talks [member discussion]
• put up new layout
• forum signature / spam bot checks [will need mod assistance]
  

]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2554 Tue, 09 Feb 2010 10:34:34 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2554

Wish our lovely horse a HAPPY 23rd/24th BIRTHDAY!

No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean/Chinese.]]>

Wish our lovely horse a HAPPY 23rd/24th BIRTHDAY!

No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean/Chinese.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2548 Mon, 08 Feb 2010 14:04:40 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2548
Today, February 9th, is our leader's 26th birthday! Leave a message for him here.
No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean/Chinese.]]>
Today, February 9th, is our leader's 26th birthday! Leave a message for him here.
No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean/Chinese.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2536 Wed, 03 Feb 2010 01:55:28 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2536
Sorry this was more explained the first time I typed it but my browser closed. T__T

Common Questions
- What happens if Han Geng leaves?
We will continue supporting the band of six! No problems.

- What happens if a member is added?
They will be treated as if they were there originally. What I mean is they will be treated with the same respect we give the other boys, no questions asked.

To be honest, we will probably differ greatly from Korean and Chinese ELF greatly on this issue from what I'm seeing now. I would like for us to remain as respectable as possible and as I've stated, we won't leap at something just because it's labeled as ELF.

Now the big question!
- What happens if SJM disbands?

Please allow me to list ideas I have. Please note that NO member favoritism is intended, I'm just weighing forum strengths and weaknesses.

- we could continue as a HanHenMi forum with special sections for the other M boys.

why: HanHenMi are far more likely to stay in China if disbandment happens. Likewise the other four boys are probably going to stay in Korea if a disbandment happens. Many people expressed interest in wanting to keep up with these three especially as well, also, we have Chinese translators, but we do not have Korean ones. Lastly when I say special sections for the other four, I will find a way to make sure that they have special sections! Overall though the main news focus will shift to HanHenMi while the news for the other four will be in their sections only.

- we could become an archive site for M.

why: we can do that regardless, why waste a perfectly good forum for that? I am actually in the planning stages for getting an M archive site up as you read. I actually had plans for it BEFORE Han Geng filed his lawsuit. But this way M can always somehow be accessed with an archive.

- we could be a SJ forum.
why: no. No we can't. It won't work. I can't think of a possible scenario it would work.

Not as M related Options:

- we could be a Korean artist in China support forum.
why: SJM in China, to much annoyance (on at least my end), is regraded as a Korean group. They are easily one of the most, if not the most, popular Korean group (if they aren't they're second to DBSK) in China, why not support others taking the same path they did? They helped paved the way for them let's watch them try?

Very off the wall option:

- we could be a Korean company audition support forum?
why: SM, JYPE are both groups aiming at China and both are companies that take trainees through auditions. Each and every M boy had to audition and those with Korea dreams will have to too. We could very well create a helpful environment to help people with the audition process. For example people could upload their singing clips and get constructive feedback. I think it'd be fun!
I may do this one even regardless of the M situation XD let me know if you want to help LOL.

My personal opinion: I lean towards the HanHenMi option and the last two options (if that isn't obvious with the last one).
As I stated I'm very open to being swayed and opinions of others.

Go ahead discuss, while I do not want SJM disband I would like us to be prepared for the worst () and for us to know where we're going since this is a very real possibility.

---

Closing Notes:
Lastly, if SJM EVER returns if disbanded, Third Chapter will be back. Or at least try to though there may be some drastic changes that can't be helped.

Our number one priority is SJM at Third Chapter no matter what. Disbandment isn't wanted, a missing leader isn't wanted, and I hope this post doesn't make you think I want them to go away so I can close this place. I don't want that, I just don't like not having a plan. I would also like to just make sure things are clear at the end of the day for everyone, less chaos. That way whatever happens we know where we're going. OK?


....*sigh* now I'm a bit sad.]]>
Sorry this was more explained the first time I typed it but my browser closed. T__T

Common Questions
- What happens if Han Geng leaves?
We will continue supporting the band of six! No problems.

- What happens if a member is added?
They will be treated as if they were there originally. What I mean is they will be treated with the same respect we give the other boys, no questions asked.

To be honest, we will probably differ greatly from Korean and Chinese ELF greatly on this issue from what I'm seeing now. I would like for us to remain as respectable as possible and as I've stated, we won't leap at something just because it's labeled as ELF.

Now the big question!
- What happens if SJM disbands?

Please allow me to list ideas I have. Please note that NO member favoritism is intended, I'm just weighing forum strengths and weaknesses.

- we could continue as a HanHenMi forum with special sections for the other M boys.

why: HanHenMi are far more likely to stay in China if disbandment happens. Likewise the other four boys are probably going to stay in Korea if a disbandment happens. Many people expressed interest in wanting to keep up with these three especially as well, also, we have Chinese translators, but we do not have Korean ones. Lastly when I say special sections for the other four, I will find a way to make sure that they have special sections! Overall though the main news focus will shift to HanHenMi while the news for the other four will be in their sections only.

- we could become an archive site for M.

why: we can do that regardless, why waste a perfectly good forum for that? I am actually in the planning stages for getting an M archive site up as you read. I actually had plans for it BEFORE Han Geng filed his lawsuit. But this way M can always somehow be accessed with an archive.

- we could be a SJ forum.
why: no. No we can't. It won't work. I can't think of a possible scenario it would work.

Not as M related Options:

- we could be a Korean artist in China support forum.
why: SJM in China, to much annoyance (on at least my end), is regraded as a Korean group. They are easily one of the most, if not the most, popular Korean group (if they aren't they're second to DBSK) in China, why not support others taking the same path they did? They helped paved the way for them let's watch them try?

Very off the wall option:

- we could be a Korean company audition support forum?
why: SM, JYPE are both groups aiming at China and both are companies that take trainees through auditions. Each and every M boy had to audition and those with Korea dreams will have to too. We could very well create a helpful environment to help people with the audition process. For example people could upload their singing clips and get constructive feedback. I think it'd be fun!
I may do this one even regardless of the M situation XD let me know if you want to help LOL.

My personal opinion: I lean towards the HanHenMi option and the last two options (if that isn't obvious with the last one).
As I stated I'm very open to being swayed and opinions of others.

Go ahead discuss, while I do not want SJM disband I would like us to be prepared for the worst () and for us to know where we're going since this is a very real possibility.

---

Closing Notes:
Lastly, if SJM EVER returns if disbanded, Third Chapter will be back. Or at least try to though there may be some drastic changes that can't be helped.

Our number one priority is SJM at Third Chapter no matter what. Disbandment isn't wanted, a missing leader isn't wanted, and I hope this post doesn't make you think I want them to go away so I can close this place. I don't want that, I just don't like not having a plan. I would also like to just make sure things are clear at the end of the day for everyone, less chaos. That way whatever happens we know where we're going. OK?


....*sigh* now I'm a bit sad.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2534 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:53:36 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2534
No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean. All posts WILL be glanced over. ^^

Ignore the fact I'm late, I'm trying. ]]>
No ONLY13, no ONLY5, and no FOREVER15 stuff here. No swearing and please use English/Korean. All posts WILL be glanced over. ^^

Ignore the fact I'm late, I'm trying. ]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2528 Sun, 31 Jan 2010 02:41:34 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2528
- We do not tolerate or support any form of belittling to Henry, Mi, or M as a whole. Super Show II Beijing was the last straw on my end. I am not going to be so indifferent anymore.
- Also we do not join a cause just because it's labeled as ELF. (ex. Kangin hit and run support)
- We will probably not join a negative cause by other fan groups. (ex. JYPE protest)

On the last note, if Han Geng does leave SJM and SJM continues on, Third Chapter will SUPPORT the band of six.
I'm going to level with you right now, we will officially support the boys even if one of them is missing.
Han Geng is not being kicked out of the band, if he quits it will be because he filed the lawsuit to do so. IDK maybe they can be "our sexy six" or something XD actually the forum slogan may be changing soon to "a world wide love for SJM". IDK I'm thinking.

If SJM disbands permanetly, I am doubtful Third Chapter will continue on.... We'll discuss this if you would like to do so though there is an announcement about this planned sometime in the future. (I'm just not sure when)

I thought I'd just get this out there and official. Like I said nothing forum altering I think just finally stating some information.]]>
- We do not tolerate or support any form of belittling to Henry, Mi, or M as a whole. Super Show II Beijing was the last straw on my end. I am not going to be so indifferent anymore.
- Also we do not join a cause just because it's labeled as ELF. (ex. Kangin hit and run support)
- We will probably not join a negative cause by other fan groups. (ex. JYPE protest)

On the last note, if Han Geng does leave SJM and SJM continues on, Third Chapter will SUPPORT the band of six.
I'm going to level with you right now, we will officially support the boys even if one of them is missing.
Han Geng is not being kicked out of the band, if he quits it will be because he filed the lawsuit to do so. IDK maybe they can be "our sexy six" or something XD actually the forum slogan may be changing soon to "a world wide love for SJM". IDK I'm thinking.

If SJM disbands permanetly, I am doubtful Third Chapter will continue on.... We'll discuss this if you would like to do so though there is an announcement about this planned sometime in the future. (I'm just not sure when)

I thought I'd just get this out there and official. Like I said nothing forum altering I think just finally stating some information.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2510 Thu, 21 Jan 2010 21:50:59 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2510

This layout took a LOT of time, I started a few days ago with basic coding and layout set up and then last night I was up till four AM (from 12) and today I've been working on it since three PM and it's now nine PM. (granted not all at one sitting but much of it at large chunks of a time) I'm saying easily around 15 hours was spent on this and most of it spent on small tedious things.

So may I please ask that the first thing you tell me NOT be something negative? I rarely have the time or energy to work as hard as I did for this particular layout. Please though report errors such as images not working, you can't access something, or the site is too slow but at least for a day refrain from "I don't like this color" things like that. Normally I take comments well but I'm really quite happy with this layout after all the time I spent on it. Yes, I am aware this makes me sound silly.

What's Up With This Layout?
Other than the sky? Well this layout features content first. The general view I got from you guys was that large headers = bad. You wanted to be able to get right to the content. I remember people pointing out that while other fan places have nice layouts their headers were too large and it requires to much scrolling to get where you wanted. So I attempted to keep it small and I also moved the side bar to the bottom. Therefore the content loads first.
My personal goal for Third Chapter is to be as easy as possible to get a hold of Super Junior M stuff so when I saw comments saying large headers are bad I really tried to make a layout where the content showed first.

As I mentioned the side bar from the last layout is by the chat box at the bottom. All project banners will be there as well unless super super major.

I know there was Doc Icon request in there, I couldn't do it this time I apologize. I'm still trying to find the balance between cool looking and fast loading. Doc Icons take quite a bit of time to load especially on slower browsers which I know we have a few members on those slower browsers.

This Best Works In:
Fire Fox 3, Google Chrome, Internet Explorer 8 in this order. IE8 has a couple of cosmetic things that ticks me off but I couldn't fix but it works just fine.
This was made on an 1280 x 800 browser.

Thanks for your time guys!

ps. LONG LIVE THE DIAGONAL PATTERN!]]>

This layout took a LOT of time, I started a few days ago with basic coding and layout set up and then last night I was up till four AM (from 12) and today I've been working on it since three PM and it's now nine PM. (granted not all at one sitting but much of it at large chunks of a time) I'm saying easily around 15 hours was spent on this and most of it spent on small tedious things.

So may I please ask that the first thing you tell me NOT be something negative? I rarely have the time or energy to work as hard as I did for this particular layout. Please though report errors such as images not working, you can't access something, or the site is too slow but at least for a day refrain from "I don't like this color" things like that. Normally I take comments well but I'm really quite happy with this layout after all the time I spent on it. Yes, I am aware this makes me sound silly.

What's Up With This Layout?
Other than the sky? Well this layout features content first. The general view I got from you guys was that large headers = bad. You wanted to be able to get right to the content. I remember people pointing out that while other fan places have nice layouts their headers were too large and it requires to much scrolling to get where you wanted. So I attempted to keep it small and I also moved the side bar to the bottom. Therefore the content loads first.
My personal goal for Third Chapter is to be as easy as possible to get a hold of Super Junior M stuff so when I saw comments saying large headers are bad I really tried to make a layout where the content showed first.

As I mentioned the side bar from the last layout is by the chat box at the bottom. All project banners will be there as well unless super super major.

I know there was Doc Icon request in there, I couldn't do it this time I apologize. I'm still trying to find the balance between cool looking and fast loading. Doc Icons take quite a bit of time to load especially on slower browsers which I know we have a few members on those slower browsers.

This Best Works In:
Fire Fox 3, Google Chrome, Internet Explorer 8 in this order. IE8 has a couple of cosmetic things that ticks me off but I couldn't fix but it works just fine.
This was made on an 1280 x 800 browser.

Thanks for your time guys!

ps. LONG LIVE THE DIAGONAL PATTERN!]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2498 Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:08:19 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2498 No we have not been hacked or compromised or anything like that, this is a heads up, aka a preemptive measure.

On Kpop forums there has been a spammer going around mass PMing members a VIRUS that will crash your computer.

We at Third Chapter have not encountered this spammer but we have taken measures to try to help protect us in case they find us.

What can you do to protect yourselves?
- The only Admin you will receive ANY important messages from is me, thegraceful`. If it is not from the user thegraceful` and claims to be from the admin DO NOT OPEN IT.
- The spammer has been using the names Lady_Admin and Delete Member, do not open anything from these users if they do find their way here.
- I can NOT mass pm/email you to start with.

Let me repeat, THERE HAS BEEN NO VIRUS SPAMMER AT THIRD CHAPTER. This is to make sure if the worst thing does happen we are all prepared to handle it. Again I have taken measures to attempt to keep the forum safe such as banning the user names that have been linked to the spamming but if something slips by please be informed.]]> No we have not been hacked or compromised or anything like that, this is a heads up, aka a preemptive measure.

On Kpop forums there has been a spammer going around mass PMing members a VIRUS that will crash your computer.

We at Third Chapter have not encountered this spammer but we have taken measures to try to help protect us in case they find us.

What can you do to protect yourselves?
- The only Admin you will receive ANY important messages from is me, thegraceful`. If it is not from the user thegraceful` and claims to be from the admin DO NOT OPEN IT.
- The spammer has been using the names Lady_Admin and Delete Member, do not open anything from these users if they do find their way here.
- I can NOT mass pm/email you to start with.

Let me repeat, THERE HAS BEEN NO VIRUS SPAMMER AT THIRD CHAPTER. This is to make sure if the worst thing does happen we are all prepared to handle it. Again I have taken measures to attempt to keep the forum safe such as banning the user names that have been linked to the spamming but if something slips by please be informed.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2467 Fri, 01 Jan 2010 23:28:10 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2467 lazybusy. SO!

This is the Third Chapter New Years Resolutions List, this what we as a forum wish to accomplish or even personal goals if you wish to share with us.

What I want us to accomplish:
- 2000 members
- To have Super Junior M this time next year. (sorry I'm a downer)
- Another successful project, this time for the whole group.
- For the members to be "closer", I like our closeness, I don't want to be seen as yet another forum that the only way you have a good time is if you befriend the admins and mods. Forums like that drive me mad. I guess I want us to appear more approachable.

- to make us more bold~!
- For us to get closer to Super Junior fan sites, forums.
- To show off more Chinese pop to you guys since Super Junior M is in the Chinese market.
- To finally get some newbie Chinese lessons going. (A bit out of my control but eh)
- To help SJMP get caught up with Super Junior M video subbing.
- To have our forum neat and tidy! ^^
- to have the admin panel work or switch to IPB.

I have a lot, but we have a whole year~
What are yours?]]> lazybusy. SO!

This is the Third Chapter New Years Resolutions List, this what we as a forum wish to accomplish or even personal goals if you wish to share with us.

What I want us to accomplish:
- 2000 members
- To have Super Junior M this time next year. (sorry I'm a downer)
- Another successful project, this time for the whole group.
- For the members to be "closer", I like our closeness, I don't want to be seen as yet another forum that the only way you have a good time is if you befriend the admins and mods. Forums like that drive me mad. I guess I want us to appear more approachable.

- to make us more bold~!
- For us to get closer to Super Junior fan sites, forums.
- To show off more Chinese pop to you guys since Super Junior M is in the Chinese market.
- To finally get some newbie Chinese lessons going. (A bit out of my control but eh)
- To help SJMP get caught up with Super Junior M video subbing.
- To have our forum neat and tidy! ^^
- to have the admin panel work or switch to IPB.

I have a lot, but we have a whole year~
What are yours?]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2453 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:16:58 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2453 BEFORE YOU READ REMEMBER YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE IN THE TRANSLATOR GROUP TO TRANSLATE FOR US! WE WILL ADD YOU TO IT IF YOU WANT TO BE, BUT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

Starting January 2010!!

Do you speak Mandarin? Can you read Simplified and/or Traditional Chinese? Maybe you understand Korean? If so, we want you! /army sounding advertisement

But no really we would really appreciate to have your services. So much so we are now providing rewards for well translated articles posted at Third Chapter for Third Chapter members.

What does at TC for TC mean?
- It means you aren't collecting the already translated news from another site and posting it here.
- It means you translate something and the credit is yourname@thirdchapter.org not yourname@someothersite.com

Why are we doing this?
To get the word out about us and Super Junior M. We've since day one have been on the shy side for a forum and 2010 is a new year, lets be bold. XD

Interested? Here's what's in it for you!
- User group, yes it will have it's own color and you will be spiffy.
- Access to English subtitled videos without the post requirement.
- After four well translated articles you will be open to requesting a thirdchapter email
(limit to 25 unless something drastic happens, I'm not expecting anywhere near 25 translators.) It will literally be yourname@thirdchapter.org if you desire it, accounts will be taken away if I get in trouble with my provider so NO SPAM.
- Access to the donor box, which includes alternate download links to English subtitled goodies and other things as well. (or it will, I'm working on it.)
- an increased PM limit. You will be able to keep up to 250 PMs. Members are currently only able to receive 50.

Wait, with rewards won't just anyone try to post a "translation"?
That's right so here are the user group rules:
1. YOU MAY NOT USE AN ONLINE TRANSLATOR.
2. STEALING WON'T BE TOLERATED, to the extent it is a week long ban instantly.
3. If your article is of poor quality it will be deleted and you will not be kept in the translator group.
4. You may not take an article that was translated into English, then translated into another language, and translate it back to English for this forum. (example a Chinese article was translated to English, a spanish SJM site took the English and translated it into Spanish and then you found the Spanish and translated it into English. This is a no-no)
5. To be put into the translator group more quickly you will need to apply, if you just translate something and post it you will be PMed.
6. NEWBIE CHINESE SPEAKERS NEED NOT APPLY.

Because of this we are also seeking out spot translators! Please if you translate Chinese please look over submitted articles, I don't understand enough Chinese to do it myself.

If translating gets out of hand I'll offer rewards to spotters. If you are uncertain of your translation (for example you're a newbie translator) please put it in the news checking section.

How do I apply?
The same way translators apply for Super Junior M productions.
See here: http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=1848]]> BEFORE YOU READ REMEMBER YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE IN THE TRANSLATOR GROUP TO TRANSLATE FOR US! WE WILL ADD YOU TO IT IF YOU WANT TO BE, BUT IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.

Starting January 2010!!

Do you speak Mandarin? Can you read Simplified and/or Traditional Chinese? Maybe you understand Korean? If so, we want you! /army sounding advertisement

But no really we would really appreciate to have your services. So much so we are now providing rewards for well translated articles posted at Third Chapter for Third Chapter members.

What does at TC for TC mean?
- It means you aren't collecting the already translated news from another site and posting it here.
- It means you translate something and the credit is yourname@thirdchapter.org not yourname@someothersite.com

Why are we doing this?
To get the word out about us and Super Junior M. We've since day one have been on the shy side for a forum and 2010 is a new year, lets be bold. XD

Interested? Here's what's in it for you!
- User group, yes it will have it's own color and you will be spiffy.
- Access to English subtitled videos without the post requirement.
- After four well translated articles you will be open to requesting a thirdchapter email
(limit to 25 unless something drastic happens, I'm not expecting anywhere near 25 translators.) It will literally be yourname@thirdchapter.org if you desire it, accounts will be taken away if I get in trouble with my provider so NO SPAM.
- Access to the donor box, which includes alternate download links to English subtitled goodies and other things as well. (or it will, I'm working on it.)
- an increased PM limit. You will be able to keep up to 250 PMs. Members are currently only able to receive 50.

Wait, with rewards won't just anyone try to post a "translation"?
That's right so here are the user group rules:
1. YOU MAY NOT USE AN ONLINE TRANSLATOR.
2. STEALING WON'T BE TOLERATED, to the extent it is a week long ban instantly.
3. If your article is of poor quality it will be deleted and you will not be kept in the translator group.
4. You may not take an article that was translated into English, then translated into another language, and translate it back to English for this forum. (example a Chinese article was translated to English, a spanish SJM site took the English and translated it into Spanish and then you found the Spanish and translated it into English. This is a no-no)
5. To be put into the translator group more quickly you will need to apply, if you just translate something and post it you will be PMed.
6. NEWBIE CHINESE SPEAKERS NEED NOT APPLY.

Because of this we are also seeking out spot translators! Please if you translate Chinese please look over submitted articles, I don't understand enough Chinese to do it myself.

If translating gets out of hand I'll offer rewards to spotters. If you are uncertain of your translation (for example you're a newbie translator) please put it in the news checking section.

How do I apply?
The same way translators apply for Super Junior M productions.
See here: http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=1848]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2437 Mon, 28 Dec 2009 02:54:14 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2437 and the winner is.....purple_princess!
The only user to find ALL 12 days, and the only person to ever find all 12 days in the two years we've done this contest!

Congratulations!! This is quite a feat because on some of these presents I tried to outdo myself on hiding them. I didn't want a lot of repeats T__T

I don't have banners made sorry T__T

Second Place: LunaEclipse522

The prize will be awarded soon. ]]> and the winner is.....purple_princess!
The only user to find ALL 12 days, and the only person to ever find all 12 days in the two years we've done this contest!

Congratulations!! This is quite a feat because on some of these presents I tried to outdo myself on hiding them. I didn't want a lot of repeats T__T

I don't have banners made sorry T__T

Second Place: LunaEclipse522

The prize will be awarded soon. ]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2427 Fri, 25 Dec 2009 15:28:53 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2427 You have until 5PM GMT-5 Dec 26th to find today.

It's easy T_T

People who found today:
_amanda
iheartviolinboy
purple_princess
LunaEclipse522]]> You have until 5PM GMT-5 Dec 26th to find today.

It's easy T_T

People who found today:
_amanda
iheartviolinboy
purple_princess
LunaEclipse522]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2422 Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:59:04 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2422
Yesterdays is at the 'new thread' page.

You have until..whenever I get on tomorrow to find day eleven and then day 12 will be posted.

People who found day 11:
ALittleMandarinELF
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
purple_princess
LunaEclipse522
Rikuggc
mi20zh
aznfobness
tiromaru]]>
Yesterdays is at the 'new thread' page.

You have until..whenever I get on tomorrow to find day eleven and then day 12 will be posted.

People who found day 11:
ALittleMandarinELF
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
purple_princess
LunaEclipse522
Rikuggc
mi20zh
aznfobness
tiromaru]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2418 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:22:18 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2418 Yesterday's was at the memberlist page.

You have until 1PM GMT-5 to find today's present!

People Who Found Day 10:
ellopauline
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
LunaEclipse522
purple_princess
ALittleMandarinELF]]> Yesterday's was at the memberlist page.

You have until 1PM GMT-5 to find today's present!

People Who Found Day 10:
ellopauline
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
LunaEclipse522
purple_princess
ALittleMandarinELF]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2417 Wed, 23 Dec 2009 13:13:11 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2417
Leaders:
purple_princess - 9
LunaEclipse522 - 8
ALittleMandarinELF - 8

those who still have a shot:
iheartviolinboy - 7
_Amanda - 7

borderline (would result in a tie at best):
-none-

Below Six:
zmelii - 4
[동해]x[카리스티] - 5
euphorie - 1
aznfobness - 5
MandK's sibling - 1
mi20zh - 2
glass.doll - 2
Asjet - 4
ellopauline - 1
BrittLovesDonghae - 1
animesouljette - 2
joejoebeloved - 1
18succubus - 1

If your score is below six, you do not have a chance to win this contest with only days 10,11,12 left.
If you are below six and can't win you are by no means discouraged from playing. If you want to keep at it please do so, just know that there will not be a prize at the end for you.]]>
Leaders:
purple_princess - 9
LunaEclipse522 - 8
ALittleMandarinELF - 8

those who still have a shot:
iheartviolinboy - 7
_Amanda - 7

borderline (would result in a tie at best):
-none-

Below Six:
zmelii - 4
[동해]x[카리스티] - 5
euphorie - 1
aznfobness - 5
MandK's sibling - 1
mi20zh - 2
glass.doll - 2
Asjet - 4
ellopauline - 1
BrittLovesDonghae - 1
animesouljette - 2
joejoebeloved - 1
18succubus - 1

If your score is below six, you do not have a chance to win this contest with only days 10,11,12 left.
If you are below six and can't win you are by no means discouraged from playing. If you want to keep at it please do so, just know that there will not be a prize at the end for you.]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2413 Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:34:37 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2413
Also please stop the constant "I can't find it, I'm stupid, a hint wouldn't hurt" stuff. It's starting to annoy me. Not only is it on the chatbox it's being PM'd to me by a few members. I won't be giving out more hints.

You have until 1 PM GMT-5 to find todays.

People Who Found Day 9:
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
LunaEclipse522
Asjet
animesouljette
18succubus
purple_princess
aznfobness
ALittleMandarinELF
mi20zh]]>
Also please stop the constant "I can't find it, I'm stupid, a hint wouldn't hurt" stuff. It's starting to annoy me. Not only is it on the chatbox it's being PM'd to me by a few members. I won't be giving out more hints.

You have until 1 PM GMT-5 to find todays.

People Who Found Day 9:
_Amanda
iheartviolinboy
LunaEclipse522
Asjet
animesouljette
18succubus
purple_princess
aznfobness
ALittleMandarinELF
mi20zh]]> http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2408 Mon, 21 Dec 2009 12:53:58 -0500 http://thirdchapter.org/showthread.php?tid=2408
You have until 1PM GMT-5 to find today.

Hint, it will not be visible like the last seven. Click away.

People Who Found Day Eight:
joejoebeloved
iheartviolinboy
Asjet
purple_princess
_Amanda]]>
You have until 1PM GMT-5 to find today.

Hint, it will not be visible like the last seven. Click away.

People Who Found Day Eight:
joejoebeloved
iheartviolinboy
Asjet
purple_princess
_Amanda]]>